tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949953051173416434.post1031672696818604329..comments2024-02-12T12:24:25.566-05:00Comments on Astro Torah: The World's First Boat?Shtiklerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07498936768989355610noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949953051173416434.post-5501532461065505962011-11-07T10:36:31.856-05:002011-11-07T10:36:31.856-05:00this was already said by rav yosef chaim zonnenfel...this was already said by rav yosef chaim zonnenfeld...vand printed)yehoshea miernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949953051173416434.post-85756207742489030042011-10-24T20:15:09.800-04:002011-10-24T20:15:09.800-04:00Couldn't they row their boats gently down the ...Couldn't they row their boats gently down the stream?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949953051173416434.post-22062197676456193052009-10-23T09:35:05.485-04:002009-10-23T09:35:05.485-04:00Upon further review, I do not think my earlier que...Upon further review, I do not think my earlier question was valid. The year could be the sun's position relative to the background constellations. However, this theory of the S'forno would mean that the sun did not travel through the zodiacal constellations, instead it traveled through the equatorial ones. I don't know what astrological associations this would have. of course, it still does not conform to Chazal's understanding.Ari S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15688549063544341675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949953051173416434.post-54980208407450122022009-10-23T08:36:19.707-04:002009-10-23T08:36:19.707-04:00I have always had difficulty with this S'forno...I have always had difficulty with this S'forno. I understand that his commentary does not have to conform with the many ideas expressed by Chazal that discuss the concept of seasons prior to Noach (such as the sun being lower in the sky every day after Creation until the winter solstice), but I would think that he has to conform to the actual pesukim in the Chumash itself. In Bereishis 1:14 we are told that one of the functions of the luminaries was to have years (Shanim). A shana is a shana because the sun has visibly returned to its place that in the sky that it had not occupied since last year. This cannot happen unless the world has a tilt!!! Therefore, there must have been a tilt even at the beginning of time!!!Ari S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15688549063544341675noreply@blogger.com